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    Nvidia 3D Vision 2

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    3D Movie Collection

    I compared a number of 3D movies which I previously observed cross-talk on the Samsung S23A700D and Asus VG236H, and in all of them the Asus VG248QE was cross-talk free like the BenQ XL2420T, except for one scene from Tron: Legacy:



    The above image was shot with the 3D glasses in front of my camera

    Cross-talk was almost completely absent from the VG248QE during 3D movies, as well as in games with proper 3D implementation. Games such as Left 4 Dead 2 suffer from obvious cross-talk since the 3D implementation is not very good. Games like Battlefield 3 are almost completely cross-talk free, but requires a powerful graphics card or two to handle the ultra settings.

    There is not much I can write about the VG248QE's 3D performance other than that it the least amount of cross-talk of any 3D monitor and that the 3D colors and black levels are mediocre by default.

    Users likely will not want to watch 3D movies on the VG248QE since it's blacks are quite grayish. The VG248QE's black levels are very disappointing considering that both the BenQ XL2420T and Asus VG236H's 3D black levels were more than suitable for handling dark scenes once their contrast settings were turned up.

    I could write about 3D games which have obvious cross-talk issues and 3D games which do not, but that would be pointless since no other Nvidia 3D Vision display performs substantially better.

    I still prefer the Passive 3D Asus VG23AH since it uses an IPS panel=much better colors, supports up to 76hz for 3D and the Tri-Def 3D works better in many games such as the Mass Effect series and Left 4 Dead.

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    Xbox 360 Settings

    To get audio with external sources use an Xbox 360 RCA adapter


    Or use the included 3.5mm audio cord to connect to the desired sound device.

    Use the following Image Settings

    System Settings> Console Settings> Display> HDTV Settings>Select 720 or 1080p

    Enable Display Discovery in the System Settings>Console Settings>Display Settings tab or

    System Settings> Console Settings> Display> Reference Levels: Intermediate

    Under the Display menu go to the Colour Space Menu and use the Auto Setting.

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    PS3 Settings
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    Looper Blu-Ray

    PS3 Settings: Go to Settings>Display Settings>

    Scroll down and select RGB Full Range (HDMI) and switch it to Full, other wise the colors will be washed out. This applies to all displays.

    Go to Settings>Video Settings>

    Scroll down and select 1080p 24hz Output (HDMI) and select On since the Crossover 2755AMG supports 24hz Blu-Ray play back.



    To use external audio devices use the 3.5mm audio in & out ports located on the back of the 2755AMG or use the included PS3's RCA cord:


    Or use insert an optical cord into the optical out port located at the back of the PS3 to connect the PS3 to an external device.

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    60hz Settings


    Brightness: 25
    Contrast: 60
    Red: 100
    Green: 96
    Blue: 88
    Trace Free: 80 or 40 to get rid of the overshoot, at the price of more obvious, but still minor streaking

    ICC Profile:
    http://www.mediafire.com/download/ci...0hzVG248QE.icm

    Use Color Sustainer to force games to use ICC Profiles

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    2D Lightboost Settings


    2D Gaming 6500k Lightboost ICC Profile and Settings:

    Contrast 65
    Lightboost 10% or first click

    2D Gaming 6500k Lightboost 10% ICC Profile

    Use Color Sustainer to force games to use ICC Profiles

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    144hz Settings


    144hz Settings:
    Brightness: 24
    Contrast: 60
    Red: 100
    Green: 95
    Blue: 84
    Trace Free: 40

    ICC Profile:
    http://www.mediafire.com/download/ls...4hzVG248QE.icm

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    Matte Coating

    Overclock.ru's =DEAD= used a macro lens to take a picture of the Asus VG248QE, and many other monitors coatings.

    http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/52398...G248QE.html#19



    Unfortunately the Asus VG248QE uses a typically grainy matte coating found on most TN's. Whites and light colors look sparkly/dirty/grainy and there is a slight screen door effect. This is quite unffortunate considering that the Asus VG236H was glossy.

    The first manufacturer to release a 144hz with with the same light (semi-glossy) matte coatings found on PLS and some of LG's new IPS panels gets a free cookie.

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    Conclusion

    Priest Blu-Ray


    +280$
    +Excellent Build Quality
    +Excellent Adjustable Stand
    +Good amount of inputs
    +Good amount of included cords
    +60hz: Unmatched lack of lag+ghosting
    +120hz Lightboost/3D: Extremely clear, blur free CRT like experience
    +144hz: Unmatched lack of lag+ghosting
    +Relatively accurate Standard Mode Color presets
    +Decent calibrated color accuracy
    +Deep blacks @60hz before+after calibration
    +Grey scale handling>VG236H
    +Shadow details are easy to see due to the low average gamma
    +Game Plus Cross-hair: useful for cheating noobs in FPS without cross-hairs
    -TN Panel=Mediocre Viewing Angles and Vertical gamma shift
    -Grainy matte coating
    -Colors are not the same @60h/120/144hz
    -Washed out 144hz colors due to the low average gamma
    -Inaccurate Native Gamut: Inaccurate sRGB Color Space coverage: unfix-able pink tint
    -Bleached3 120+144hz whites and light colors due to the high default contrast setting
    -Meh 144hz black levels after calibration
    -Mediocre 3D/Lightboost Preset colors and black levels
    -Mediocre 3D/Lightboost black levels after calibration
    -Glossy Bezel looks weird with matte coating
    -Samsung Series 7+9 120hz TN's have less ghosting
    -Samsung Series 7+9 120hz TN's have better colors
    -Asus VG236H: Despite being nearly 3 years old the VG236H has better colors vs. the VG248QE

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    I am not sure if I am supposed to reply in this thread or some other one, but I wanted to clarify some things about this monitor. I calibrate TVs, monitors, projects, etc. using i1D3/i1Display Pro and usually profile with a spectrometer if I can get my hands on one. I spent a good bit of time trying to make this monitor look better and I mostly succeeded with a few exceptions.

    - It doesn't matter if its LB mode or standard mode at any refresh rate - only BT.1886 gamma is acceptable for this monitor due to its high black level. With BT.1886 tone curve, this monitor actually displays a very decent picture. sRGB tone could work too, but it would be a bit too light.
    - I used CalMAN v5 Enthusiast to generate a LUT/ICC at first, but then I tried ArgyllCMS+dispcalGUI, which is a very thorough and extremely accurate 1DLUT and 3DLUT calibrator/profiler. The LUT it generated was far superior to any software out there.
    - You absolutely have to profile i1Display Pro/i1D3 with a spectrometer on this exact display. The degree of error is very high when using X-Rite's LED correction file for i1D3 colorimeter. Luckily, I was using dispcalGUI with ArgyllCMS, which has a database of correction files and there was one done with i1Pro spectrometer for i1D3 colorimeter on this exact monitor. Using that correction resulted in a much better grayscale - one that is actually neutrally gray!
    - This monitor is more sensitive to dE error than any display I ever calibrated. Anything above dE 0.5 and your grayscale will have a tint. Its really that bad!

    - Finally, the one and only issue that needs fixing is a 256bit step grayscale calibration. As you know a LUT contains 256 bits (0-255) of white balance and gamma values. All the profiling and calibrating software uses a certain number of points for calibration (like 10, or 21, or in case of ArgyllCMS - about 90!) and then interpolates/guesses the needed values for all the point in-between. This monitor presents a big problem in that its 0-30% grayscale range (IRE), which is the most important and most used one by games and movies, has highly variable errors! Usually, an error such as too much blue in WB, persists over a range of bits (from 15-30, for example), but with tis monitor bit 15 may have too much blue, while bit 16 may have too little blue, and bit 17 may have too much blue again! These error spikes make it impossible for any software to calibrate this monitor by creating an accurate LUT/ICC file. The best result is a mostly neutral gray scale, but some important bits are purple, while others are green, and others are red. That OR this monitor is not actually capable of producing neutral grays - something I refuse to believe! I can only think of ONE way to fix that - manual calibration of an already existing LUT/ICC that I made with ArgyllCMS. Since my LUT is 90% accurate - redoing the whole calibration is pointless. However, I have been unable to find a program that would be able to capture an existing videoLUT and allow me to manually edit it bit by bit . VideoEquilizer is the best I could find, but it only allows a maximum of 81pts and I need all 255!

    I realize each screen is different and requires its own calibration, but given the fact that an i1Pro spectro correction file from the internet worked like a charm on my VG248 suggests that if I were to create an ICC or a LUT file with a neutral-gray scale for my monitor - it would work on others! I would more than happy to provide such an ICC file, but only if I could actually achieve those neutral grays using manual bit by bit adjustment/calibration. Please let me know if you are aware of such software!!!

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