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    Quote Originally Posted by dath2014 View Post
    when u post review benq xl2720z
    Never.

    Return the VG248QE and get the XL2720Z or wait for the new 120hz+ monitors to come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCX View Post
    Never.

    Return the VG248QE and get the XL2720Z or wait for the new 120hz+ monitors to come out.
    i see wait the new 120hz+ monitors to come out
    that is GSYNC without HDMI how can play console

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    Quote Originally Posted by dath2014 View Post
    i see wait the new 120hz+ monitors to come out
    that is GSYNC without HDMI how can play console
    Pretty simple, use G-Sync for PC gaming and HDMI for consoles. Consoles are limited to 60hz, so if you mostly intend to play console games an AHVA/IPS/PLS or VA panel would be a better choice since they have better colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCX View Post
    Pretty simple, use G-Sync for PC gaming and HDMI for consoles. Consoles are limited to 60hz, so if you mostly intend to play console games an AHVA/IPS/PLS or VA panel would be a better choice since they have better colors.
    yes G-Sync for PC gaming
    i saw G-Sync Monitor without HDMI INPUT
    but displayport only that PC only

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    NCX, your wrote
    There are no glossy VA panels and no affordable 1920x1200 VA panels. ...
    (page 4) but I found the Dell S2440L (5000:1), unfortunately prad.de writes that it only has 82,7% sRGB coverage, which is typical for a AMVA-Panel.
    I won't buy this Display, but what do you think about the S2340L or which glossy would you recommend? (there is no "Best glossy 22-24" 1080/1200 PWM IPS/PLS panels" on first page unfortunately)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gloss View Post
    NCX, your wrote (page 4) but I found the Dell S2440L (5000:1), unfortunately prad.de writes that it only has 82,7% sRGB coverage, which is typical for a AMVA-Panel.
    I won't buy this Display, but what do you think about the S2340L or which glossy would you recommend? (there is no "Best glossy 22-24" 1080/1200 PWM IPS/PLS panels" on first page unfortunately)
    I won't recommend monitors which use LED PWM Dimming (Side Effects) and the S2440L uses glass (coating comparison) which is extremely reflective, makes the blacks look gray and makes the high measured contrast ratios worthless. All Dell S series monitors suffer from excessive overshoot ghosting and all of the S series monitors except for the glass S2740L use LED PWM Dimming.

    The 23" HP Envy (=DEAD='s Review, use Google or Chrome to translate) is better than the S236HL and also PWM free but is not widely available. HP's larger glossy monitors (25BW, 27BW, 27Xi, 27 Envy) use LED PWM Dimming.

    The Acer S236HL (=DEAD='s Review, use Google or Chrome to translate) is glossy, PWM free and only overshoots a bit, but the overdrive can be tweaked in the service menu. There's also the Acer S276HL (Digital Versus Review) which does not overshoot but I don't know if it is PWM free, though I assume it doesn't since the 23" does not.

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    Thanks, I meant of course "...no PWM...". Envy indeed not widely available. I don't know how bad the ghosting on the S2340L is but if it uses PWM it's not an option. I need a display for mainly text stuff, vids and no gaming. Maybe I should buy a good semi-glossy. On the first page there is "Best Semi-Glossy..", but so the other categories have a more aggressive coating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gloss View Post
    On the first page there is "Best Semi-Glossy..", but so the other categories have a more aggressive coating?
    I indicated if the monitors are glossy, semi-glossy or matte beside the product name. The matte monitors all use AH-IPS panels and the coating used is grainy, but is not as grainy as the older coating LG used to use.

    Dell P2314H coating analysis by =DEAD= (Use Google or Chrome to translate). The P2314H uses the same coating as most matte AH-IPS.

    I am testing the Samsung S24D590L (PWM free matte AD-PLS panel) which is not semi-glossy, but the coating is only marginally grainy compared to a semi-glossy coating. PC Monitors has reviewed the S24D390H which has one less HDMI input and his unit has slightly better color presets than the 590 I'm testing.

    The Acer S236HL is definitely the best wide available glossy monitor under 200$ along with the Acer H226QL.

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    So after hours upon hours of seemingly never ending research looking for a good 27" 1080p monitor to upgrade my Vizio 26" HDTV, and to hold me off for saving up for a better, more expensive monitor in the future, waiting for G-Sync monitors to become a little more refined, and for graphics cards to beef up a bit for better performance at WQHD and 4K resolutions. I've narrowed it down to 2 options, the BenQ GW2760HS, and the Asus VN279QL. But I'm having troubles deciding.

    So for some info, I'm a gamer first and foremost, so low input lag and ghosting I think are the top priority, with overall image quality second. Also in my current situation, I'm going to be in front of and staring at this monitor basically all day. Also my room is pretty much pitch black most of the time unless I have the overhead light on, which isn't super bright either.

    So that leads in to the first conflict, I know the Benq is flicker free, which is very nice. But the Asus does use 2,500hz for the dimming, which, by my understanding is very fast compared to most monitors (usually 200-500hz), which I think would be alright. My current TV definitely isn't flicker free, and I don't get headaches constantly or notice any flicker during normal use. But I'm sure flicker free would be nice, especially for long gaming sessions.

    I know the panels used for both of these is the same, so they have very similar input lag/ghosting. But it's hard to tell which one is overall better, though the Asus does have more options with the "trace free" running from 0-100.

    I guess the other issue is the image quality over all. The Asus appears to have better colors, contrast ratio and etc. But BenQ seems to have less backlight bleed and such.

    Also something I noticed in the PRAD reviews of both of these is, apparently, the Asus uses 0.2 W even while it's OFF. While the BenQ uses no power while off. I'm sure 0.2 W isn't a big deal, but it's still a bit off-putting.

    I'm also aware of the Asus's ergonomic options, swivel, pivot etc. But that doesn't matter to me, the most I need is tilt. Also the Asus uses DisplayPort as opposed to DVI, which is cool I guess, I know DP is better. But I'm sure that at 1080p 60hz that doesn't matter.

    Also the prices, the Asus currently has a 30$ rebate bringing the price down to about 250$, and the BenQ is available at B&H for 220$ with free shipping+no tax. So, is there anything about the Asus that makes it worth the extra 30$?

    I'm also aware of the Samsung monitor that uses the same panel as these 2 (that you have also reviewed!). But I'm not a fan of Samsung or their practices as a company so I don't want to support them, it doesn't seem any better anyway, and it doesn't appear to be widely available in any store of note. Even the cheapest I've seen it, it's just as much or more expensive than the Asus (upwards of 100+$ more).

    I also briefly considered the BenQ EW2740L that you have mentioned, but where I live (U.S.A) it's about 150$ more than the Asus, and nearly 200$ more than the GW2760HS. So I'm afraid that's not an option.

    THANK YOU for putting up with my rambling! Bad habit I guess, I just want to be as thorough as possible. This issue has been bugging the hell out of me for the past few days! Researching monitors is exhausting! (at least if you care haha)

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    The Asus has better colors since it has a slightly larger and more accurate color gamut, slightly more refined overdrive when using the Trace Free 60 setting and a height adjustable stand. Increasing the Asus's Trace Free setting or BenQ's AMA setting introduces very obvious overshoot ghosting.

    The EW2740L costs 270-300$ in Canada, not sure why it is so expensive in the US.

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