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    Forbes: It's Time to End the Drug War

    Let's Be Blunt: It's Time to End the Drug War - Forbes

    April 20 is the counter-culture “holiday” on which lots and lots of people come together to advocate marijuana legalization (or just get high). Should drugs—especially marijuana—be legal? The answer is “yes.” Immediately. Without hesitation. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200 seized in a civil asset forfeiture. The war on drugs has been a dismal failure. It’s high time to end prohibition. Even if you aren’t willing to go whole-hog and legalize all drugs, at the very least we should legalize marijuana.

    For the sake of the argument, let’s go ahead and assume that everything you’ve heard about the dangers of drugs is completely true. That probably means that using drugs is a terrible idea. It doesn’t mean, however, that the drug war is a good idea.

    Prohibition is a textbook example of a policy with negative unintended consequences. Literally: it’s an example in the textbook I use in my introductory economics classes (Cowen and Tabarrok, Modern Principles of Economics if you’re curious) and in the most popular introductory economics textbook in the world (by N. Gregory Mankiw).The demand curve for drugs is extremely inelastic, meaning that people don’t change their drug consumption very much in response to changes in prices. Therefore, vigorous enforcement means higher prices and higher revenues for drug dealers. In fact, I’ll defer to Cowen and Tabarrok—page 60 of the first edition, if you’re still curious—for a discussion of the basic economic logic:

    The more effective prohibition is at raising costs, the greater are drug industry revenues. So, more effective prohibition means that drug sellers have more money to buy guns, pay bribes, fund the dealers, and even research and develop new technologies in drug delivery (like crack cocaine). It’s hard to beat an enemy that gets stronger the more you strike against him or her.

    People associate the drug trade with crime and violence; indeed, the newspapers occasionally feature stories about drug kingpins doing horrifying things to underlings and competitors. These aren’t caused by the drugs themselves but from the fact that they are illegal (which means the market is underground) and addictive (which means demanders aren’t very price sensitive).

    Those same newspapers will also occasionally feature articles about how this or that major dealer has been taken down or about how this or that quantity of drugs was taken off the streets. Apparently we’re to take from this the idea that we’re going to “win” the war on drugs. Apparently. It’s alleged that this is only a step toward getting “Mister Big,” but even if the government gets “Mister Big,” it’s not going to matter. Apple didn’t disappear after Steve Jobs died. Getting “Mr. Big” won’t win the drug war. As I pointed out almost a year ago, economist and drug policy expert Jeffrey Miron estimates that we would have a lot less violence without a war on drugs.

    At the recent Association of Private Enterprise Education conference, David Henderson from the Naval Postgraduate School pointed out the myriad ways in which government promises to make us safer in fact imperil our safety and security. The drug war is an obvious example: in the name of making us safer and protecting us from drugs, we are actually put in greater danger. Without meaning to, the drug warriors have turned American cities into war zones and eroded the very freedoms we hold dear.

    Freedom of contract has been abridged in the name of keeping us “safe” from drugs. Private property is less secure because it can be seized if it is implicated in a drug crime (this also flushes the doctrine of “innocent until proven guilty” out the window). The drug war has been used as a pretext for clamping down on immigration. Not surprisingly, the drug war has turned some of our neighborhoods into war zones. We are warehousing productive young people in prisons at an alarming rate all in the name of a war that cannot be won.

    Albert Einstein is reported to have said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. By this definition, the drug war is insane. We are no safer, and we are certainly less free because of concerted efforts to wage war on drugs. It’s time to stop the insanity and end prohibition.
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    Nice. Another excellent synopsis of the war on drugs by a libertarian. Libertarian voices seem to be the only ones right now speaking out against it.

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    A well written piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris72b9 View Post
    Nice. Another excellent synopsis of the war on drugs by a libertarian. Libertarian voices seem to be the only ones right now speaking out against it.
    Ridiculous of you to ignore the amount of liberals who do. Laughable really. Hell, many normally "Conservative" people are against the war on drugs.. because it really can't be defined by liberal/conservative/libertarian even.

    It's just a stupid concept, that an unfortunate amount of people support.
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    As someone else pointed out in the police state thread: drugs are good for the economy. It puts millions in jail and that's big business. Keeps thousands employed to guard those inmates. Thousands more are employed to actually "fight" the war on drugs. Without the war on drugs there would be a TON of people twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do.

    This is the reality we live in. It sucks and it's bullshit, but you can't just simply pull the plug on the drug war. Just like we can't pull the plug on the military. We have put ourselves in such a fucking mess that there really is no way out.

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    @Dread Fox: Most of that money is being spent by taxpayer dollars to fund those jobs. You could easily shift that same money to other more useful, less destructive (and costly) social services.

    That is a really bad reason (and not really accurate in the first place) to argue against ending the war on drugs. Especially when it comes to prisons.. the cost their is not to pay for guards.. guards are HUGELY outnumbered by inmates.

    I think you might even be referring to my posts.. but that certainly wasn't my point.

    There is some exaggeration to how much revenue it would suddenly bring in.. because those numbers ignore the amount of revenue already brought in from drug dealers laundering money (aka paying taxes), spending money (aka paying taxes), and fines / confiscations /etc.

    But the overall net effect would be a profitable one for society.
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    @Dread Fox: Most of that money is being spent by taxpayer dollars to fund those jobs. You could easily shift that same money to other more useful, less destructive (and costly) social services.
    Yeah, like say... education and health care?

    It's kinda a no-brainer.
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    Dread I think it would be better to put all those resources to a more productive use then a big prison system. Sure what if those people were not sitting in there? Well maybe they could be growing medical marijuana at the very least.

    Also should we assume they're hard core users that did nothing but lounge around? Maybe they work and they smoke? Hell maybe out in the world they'd give more business to Dominos Pizza.

    The prison system is not productive it's a drain on resources. I feel the same way about the big military industrial complex.

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    Oh I'm all for it becoming legal. All I'm saying is you have to ask why in the hell is it taking so long? The war on drugs has been failing for a very long time. This isn't last week's news. If it's such a blatant waste of money than why is it still going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread Fox View Post
    Oh I'm all for it becoming legal. All I'm saying is you have to ask why in the hell is it taking so long? The war on drugs has been failing for a very long time. This isn't last week's news. If it's such a blatant waste of money than why is it still going on?
    Probably because it's very easy for lobby and special interest groups to point to stats that show drug use is steadily increasing, people OD, the poor need to be protected, etc, etc. It provides great buzz words for politicians and the media, and the general populace eats it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread Fox View Post
    Oh I'm all for it becoming legal. All I'm saying is you have to ask why in the hell is it taking so long? The war on drugs has been failing for a very long time. This isn't last week's news. If it's such a blatant waste of money than why is it still going on?
    There are numerous industries who are against it, that stand to lose money if the Drug War ends (non obvious ones like textile industries, pharmaceutical industry, weapons industry)... we also do have a large group of rather "Puritan" thinkers in this country that buy into anti-drug propoganda.

    And yeah, TONS of people are employed by it who would lose their jobs if the laws changed. It's a common problem in TONS of aspects of government, life, corporations, etc.

    Anyone who works in a "problem solving" industry has a selfish reason to keep stating that their is most definitely a problem that needs solved. From auto mechanics, to dentists, to psycho-therapists, to law enforcement.

    But that's not likely the largest reason we still have a Drug War.
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