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    lol

    He could have still vetoed it out of principle.... you know... if he had a spine, he probably would have done just that.

    If he would have vetoed it maybe Americans would have woke the fuck up out of their daze and sleep states, watching American Id[le] and monday night football, and decided to fight the bill, like they fought SOPA.

    The president is a liar and a coward. He wanted it to pass as much as anyone.

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    And SOPA was fought based on lies and mouth-breathers repeating those lies.

    Oh, but that was so awesome for America! Way to go guys!

    Here's my random serious thought:

    I can't fucking stand the majority of my countrymen when it comes to just about anything. Obnoxious and rampantly ignorant, horrible drivers.. generally rude in public... way too many of them are fat and ugly.

    /rant
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    @chris72b9 Ignoring NDAA for a moment, how do you feel about the fact that Ron Paul never even bothered to vote for or against CISPA?

    It's also important to note that Obama had specific issues with NDAA. It's not like he changed his mind. He compromised and the bill was adjusted so it met his needs and he signed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horns View Post
    @chris72b9 Ignoring NDAA for a moment, how do you feel about the fact that Ron Paul never even bothered to vote for or against CISPA?

    It's also important to note that Obama had specific issues with NDAA. It's not like he changed his mind. He compromised and the bill was adjusted so it met his needs and he signed it.
    Why even bother at this point horns?

    None of these people bother to pay any attention to the specifics of laws.. what changes are made based on veto pressure, etc.

    They just repeat the ramblings of articles written on web sites that don't even bother to quote the laws, or be even remotely factual.

    It's ALWAYS the same damn thing.

    "The wording is too vague." - ironically an extremely vague statement.

    "What wording, I doubt you've read it, here are 10 really specific quotes." - riotous

    "I DID read it. I just disagree, too vague." - ironically an extremely vague statement

    It's a country full of intellectually dishonest people who only care about appearing to care about something.

    They are as ignorant as they are angry.

    OMG, the general public thought SOPA was bad? That is now some argument for why something is bad? Because the people that made Key$ha popular thought it was bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToastOfR View Post
    Why even bother at this point horns?

    None of these people bother to pay any attention to the specifics of laws.. what changes are made based on veto pressure, etc.

    They just repeat the ramblings of articles written on web sites that don't even bother to quote the laws, or be even remotely factual.

    It's ALWAYS the same damn thing.

    "The wording is too vague." - ironically an extremely vague statement.

    "What wording, I doubt you've read it, here are 10 really specific quotes." - riotous

    "I DID read it. I just disagree, too vague." - ironically an extremely vague statement

    It's a country full of intellectually dishonest people who only care about appearing to care about something.

    They are as ignorant as they are angry.

    OMG, the general public thought SOPA was bad? That is now some argument for why something is bad? Because the people that made Key$ha popular thought it was bad?
    Hey now, leave Ke$ha out of this.

    I wonder if this kind of obtuseness is a uniquely American thing, or if it's a problem with humanity in general. I haven't really been to enough countries to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horns View Post
    @<a href="http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/member.php?u=76" target="_blank">chris72b9</a> Ignoring NDAA for a moment, how do you feel about the fact that Ron Paul never even bothered to vote for or against CISPA?
    He's campaigning. In fact, I think he was giving that speech in Austin at the time this was voted on. I don't have a problem. His no vote wouldn't have made a difference either.

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    It's also important to note that Obama had specific issues with NDAA. It's not like he changed his mind. He compromised and the bill was adjusted so it met his needs and he signed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris72b9 View Post
    He's campaigning. In fact, I think he was giving that speech in Austin at the time this was voted on. I don't have a problem. His no vote wouldn't have made a difference either.
    I don't think it was all that bad actually. It's a very common move for Presidential nominee candidates. Just politics from a politician.

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    Might have to pack when I'm in Tampa...

    City Wants Executive Order to Ban Concealed Carry in Tampa During RNC

    Tampa’s City Council wants Governor Rick Scott to pass an executive order banning concealed carry rights to coincide with protests at the Republican National Convention later this year.

    “The thousands of protesters expected at the Democratic and Republican national conventions can come armed with a lot more than signs and slogans: State law in Florida and North Carolina allows concealed weapons, including guns,” reports the Sacramento Bee.

    “The Tampa City Council wants Scott to issue an executive order, preventing people with concealed weapons permits from carrying guns.”

    The executive order is required because according to Florida law, local officials are prohibited from pre-empting state gun statutes.

    This move represents yet another effort to turn a right into a privilege and creates the pretext that fundamental liberties can be revoked by local bureaucrats when the mood takes them.

    We’ve seen a similar assault on free speech rights with protesters being forced to ask the authorities for permits to exercise rights already guaranteed under the First Amendment.

    Indeed, authorities in Tampa are already set to designate a “Clean Zone” where protesters are allowed to demonstrate. Although it hasn’t been decided where in relation to the actual RNC event this “Clean Zone” will be located, it’s normally kept well away from the central hub of activity, making it virtually worthless in terms of generating media attention.

    Council member Lisa Montelione’s claim made in a letter to Scott that the gun ban is necessary to “prevent a potential tragedy” is completely at odds with the facts which show Florida’s total violent crime rate has dropped 32% and its homicide rate has dropped 58% since enacting concealed carry, figures mirrored across the rest of the country.

    Authorities in Florida are relying on the fallout from the Trayvon Martin case to push their anti-Second Amendment policies despite the fact that evidence clearly indicates George Zimmerman properly exercised his right to self-defense after being attacked.

    The use of executive orders to crush constitutional rights and undermine the democratic process is a trend that has emanated from the federal level.

    Earlier this week the New York Times reported on how Obama had personally invented the slogan “We Can’t Wait” to characterize his intention to “aggressively use executive power to govern in the face of Congressional obstructionism.” In other words, Obama simply “can’t wait” to bypass Congress and use executive privilege to advance his political agenda.
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    The Bill of Privileges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horns View Post
    I don't think it was all that bad actually. It's a very common move for Presidential nominee candidates. Just politics from a politician.
    RP enthusiasts will never recognize that he is just another politician.
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